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		<title>By: Value-by-alpha maps &#124; Visualization for Discovery</title>
		<link>http://andywoodruff.com/blog/i-hate-your-favorite-election-map/comment-page-1/#comment-40960</link>
		<dc:creator>Value-by-alpha maps &#124; Visualization for Discovery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 22:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] on the internet—me, about election cartograms. Seeking an alternative to what I think are ugly and unreadable election results cartograms, I worked with my Axis Maps dudes to create a 2008 U.S. election map [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] on the internet—me, about election cartograms. Seeking an alternative to what I think are ugly and unreadable election results cartograms, I worked with my Axis Maps dudes to create a 2008 U.S. election map [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Woodruff</title>
		<link>http://andywoodruff.com/blog/i-hate-your-favorite-election-map/comment-page-1/#comment-9036</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Woodruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 02:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;&quot;Yes I sat around on a thursday night and argued about cartograms with my girlfriend. What’s wrong with that?&quot;&lt;/em&gt;

Hugh, it honestly sounds like you have a perfect life!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>&#8220;Yes I sat around on a thursday night and argued about cartograms with my girlfriend. What’s wrong with that?&#8221;</em></p>
<p>Hugh, it honestly sounds like you have a perfect life!</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Stimson</title>
		<link>http://andywoodruff.com/blog/i-hate-your-favorite-election-map/comment-page-1/#comment-8953</link>
		<dc:creator>Hugh Stimson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;So you can tell that Country X has been blown up from small to large and therefore has a high density?&quot;

Yeah bingo, there&#039;s something about the distortions such that the heavily adjusted shapes are obviously a-geographic to the eye, and consequently they just sing out at you. That makes countrys whose population:size ratio is off-average jump right out visually.

Also: what&#039;s up with Brazil, doesn&#039;t it know this is a cartogram?

While arguing about this with my girlfriend, I made the point that if what you were interested in was just popluation, that effect was a *bad* thing, because it distorted the key variable, and the World Mapper version more directly communicated that info. But she made the point that it was a good thing in that it effectively communicated 2 variables at once and intuitively: population /and/ density.

Yes I sat around on a thursday night and argued about cartograms with my girlfriend. What&#039;s wrong with that?

Thanks for the link to the new worldmapper maps, I was trying to find that and failed. I did however track down the transparency-based election cartogram. I liked it, she didn&#039;t, go figure. I do think that the point raised in the comment thread that colour value perception is mediated by adjacent colours is significant in that context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;So you can tell that Country X has been blown up from small to large and therefore has a high density?&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah bingo, there&#8217;s something about the distortions such that the heavily adjusted shapes are obviously a-geographic to the eye, and consequently they just sing out at you. That makes countrys whose population:size ratio is off-average jump right out visually.</p>
<p>Also: what&#8217;s up with Brazil, doesn&#8217;t it know this is a cartogram?</p>
<p>While arguing about this with my girlfriend, I made the point that if what you were interested in was just popluation, that effect was a *bad* thing, because it distorted the key variable, and the World Mapper version more directly communicated that info. But she made the point that it was a good thing in that it effectively communicated 2 variables at once and intuitively: population /and/ density.</p>
<p>Yes I sat around on a thursday night and argued about cartograms with my girlfriend. What&#8217;s wrong with that?</p>
<p>Thanks for the link to the new worldmapper maps, I was trying to find that and failed. I did however track down the transparency-based election cartogram. I liked it, she didn&#8217;t, go figure. I do think that the point raised in the comment thread that colour value perception is mediated by adjacent colours is significant in that context.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Woodruff</title>
		<link>http://andywoodruff.com/blog/i-hate-your-favorite-election-map/comment-page-1/#comment-8946</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Woodruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:59:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How do you get the density? Since size corresponds to population, every country on either map should have the same density. Is it that on the Gastner/Newman/Shalizi map, it&#039;s more apparent where the distortions are? So you can tell that Country X has been blown up from small to large and therefore has a high density?

On that last note, the Worldmapper team has some &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.worldmapper.org/countrycartograms/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;interesting new maps&lt;/a&gt; in which they included a grid, so you can clearly see the distortions. That would seem to allow you to tell the high density areas from low density areas without having to be familiar with the undistorted geography.

My attempt ended up being &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.axismaps.com/blog/2008/11/a-new-kind-of-election-map/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; (with a few variations &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.axismaps.com/blog/2008/12/election-map-follow-up/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;). Rather than varying size like a cartogram, it uses transparency to &quot;equalize&quot; the map units. Reviews were mixed last year; some people seemed to think it was great but others were not convinced. I ended up co-authoring a paper to propose the technique (which we called &quot;value-by-alpha&quot;)... one of these days I mean to write a blog post about that.

Oh, and thanks for the tip in the Mapping Worlds link!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How do you get the density? Since size corresponds to population, every country on either map should have the same density. Is it that on the Gastner/Newman/Shalizi map, it&#8217;s more apparent where the distortions are? So you can tell that Country X has been blown up from small to large and therefore has a high density?</p>
<p>On that last note, the Worldmapper team has some <a href="http://www.worldmapper.org/countrycartograms/" rel="nofollow">interesting new maps</a> in which they included a grid, so you can clearly see the distortions. That would seem to allow you to tell the high density areas from low density areas without having to be familiar with the undistorted geography.</p>
<p>My attempt ended up being <a href="http://www.axismaps.com/blog/2008/11/a-new-kind-of-election-map/" rel="nofollow">this</a> (with a few variations <a href="http://www.axismaps.com/blog/2008/12/election-map-follow-up/" rel="nofollow">here</a>). Rather than varying size like a cartogram, it uses transparency to &#8220;equalize&#8221; the map units. Reviews were mixed last year; some people seemed to think it was great but others were not convinced. I ended up co-authoring a paper to propose the technique (which we called &#8220;value-by-alpha&#8221;)&#8230; one of these days I mean to write a blog post about that.</p>
<p>Oh, and thanks for the tip in the Mapping Worlds link!</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Stimson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hugh Stimson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Boy, I&#039;m a little late to the table here, but:

Myself and my partner were just flipping back and forth between the Gastner/Newman/Shalizi version of the population map (http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/cartograms/) which I assume you hate, and the Mapping Worlds one you present here, and we decided that the Mapping Worlds version does a job of cleanly conveying the population variable, but the bloaty Gastner version is capable of conveying both population and also density.

So there&#039;s that.

By the way, your link to the Mapping Worlds version is dead.

Did you ever do that nice version of the Election cartogram you promised? I suppose I could get off my ass and search.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boy, I&#8217;m a little late to the table here, but:</p>
<p>Myself and my partner were just flipping back and forth between the Gastner/Newman/Shalizi version of the population map (<a href="http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/cartograms/" rel="nofollow">http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/cartograms/</a>) which I assume you hate, and the Mapping Worlds one you present here, and we decided that the Mapping Worlds version does a job of cleanly conveying the population variable, but the bloaty Gastner version is capable of conveying both population and also density.</p>
<p>So there&#8217;s that.</p>
<p>By the way, your link to the Mapping Worlds version is dead.</p>
<p>Did you ever do that nice version of the Election cartogram you promised? I suppose I could get off my ass and search.</p>
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		<title>By: An Undistorted Election Results Map &#124; PTS Blog</title>
		<link>http://andywoodruff.com/blog/i-hate-your-favorite-election-map/comment-page-1/#comment-926</link>
		<dc:creator>An Undistorted Election Results Map &#124; PTS Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] does not distort the geographical geometry of the map, in A new kind of election map and also in I hate your favorite election map in his personal blog. This visualization approach keeps the map undistorted, but uses shades of red [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] does not distort the geographical geometry of the map, in A new kind of election map and also in I hate your favorite election map in his personal blog. This visualization approach keeps the map undistorted, but uses shades of red [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Woodruff</title>
		<link>http://andywoodruff.com/blog/i-hate-your-favorite-election-map/comment-page-1/#comment-919</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Woodruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 18:11:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, and I thought about that as one of the many counterpoints to what I ended up writing in this post. Counties vs. states makes a big difference.  Although I still find a bloated cartogram at the state level displeasing, it&#039;s mostly readable.  Much of what I said is easy to defend only for that one particular map I posted, but hopefully some of the principles can stand in general too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, and I thought about that as one of the many counterpoints to what I ended up writing in this post. Counties vs. states makes a big difference.  Although I still find a bloated cartogram at the state level displeasing, it&#8217;s mostly readable.  Much of what I said is easy to defend only for that one particular map I posted, but hopefully some of the principles can stand in general too.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Peltier</title>
		<link>http://andywoodruff.com/blog/i-hate-your-favorite-election-map/comment-page-1/#comment-918</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Peltier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 17:18:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind the cartograms which portray information on a state-by-state level. You&#039;ve picked a particularly ugly one, which uses not two colors but a gradient between the two colors, and divides the map into small unrecognizable pieces. The states are still identifiable in the distorted maps, but the counties remove this link to topographic reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind the cartograms which portray information on a state-by-state level. You&#8217;ve picked a particularly ugly one, which uses not two colors but a gradient between the two colors, and divides the map into small unrecognizable pieces. The states are still identifiable in the distorted maps, but the counties remove this link to topographic reality.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Woodruff</title>
		<link>http://andywoodruff.com/blog/i-hate-your-favorite-election-map/comment-page-1/#comment-780</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Woodruff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We do have our supposed rules and principles, but I&#039;ll be honest: the fundamental bias built into cartographers is the attitude that professional cartographers are the only ones who should be trusted to make maps and that the popular maps by the untrained masses are BAD, for whatever list of reasons that the elitist professional keeps at the ready in his front pocket.  The noble goal is to offer guidance to that democratized cartography, but it doesn&#039;t often come off that way.  You should see the circle jerk that is professional cartographers discussing internet maps (consensus: they all suck).  Sometimes it&#039;s probably just a fear that the trained, professional cartographer will become obsolete and that it will turn out we&#039;ve all made a terrible career choice.

I like to think that some of us younger cartographers recognize that we aren&#039;t the arbiters of &quot;good&quot; maps, but that we can be valuable, and that we earn our worth not by sitting around cursing the amateur mapmaker but by getting on board and contributing.  Inevitably, sometimes it is going to come down to expressing some elitist opinion, as here.  I&#039;ve deliberately taken an insulting (though I hope light) tone, but really the point is to remind that while there&#039;s nothing wrong with liking the popular map (even if I don&#039;t), there may be something better out there.

I hope I&#039;ve now accomplished insulting both amateur and professional cartographers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do have our supposed rules and principles, but I&#8217;ll be honest: the fundamental bias built into cartographers is the attitude that professional cartographers are the only ones who should be trusted to make maps and that the popular maps by the untrained masses are BAD, for whatever list of reasons that the elitist professional keeps at the ready in his front pocket.  The noble goal is to offer guidance to that democratized cartography, but it doesn&#8217;t often come off that way.  You should see the circle jerk that is professional cartographers discussing internet maps (consensus: they all suck).  Sometimes it&#8217;s probably just a fear that the trained, professional cartographer will become obsolete and that it will turn out we&#8217;ve all made a terrible career choice.</p>
<p>I like to think that some of us younger cartographers recognize that we aren&#8217;t the arbiters of &#8220;good&#8221; maps, but that we can be valuable, and that we earn our worth not by sitting around cursing the amateur mapmaker but by getting on board and contributing.  Inevitably, sometimes it is going to come down to expressing some elitist opinion, as here.  I&#8217;ve deliberately taken an insulting (though I hope light) tone, but really the point is to remind that while there&#8217;s nothing wrong with liking the popular map (even if I don&#8217;t), there may be something better out there.</p>
<p>I hope I&#8217;ve now accomplished insulting both amateur and professional cartographers!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric Thomson</title>
		<link>http://andywoodruff.com/blog/i-hate-your-favorite-election-map/comment-page-1/#comment-774</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Thomson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to show the biases built into cartographers are not universal, because most of us really like these distorted monstrosities.

This isn&#039;t meant to be a diss: your field likely has very good reasons to drill certain ideas of what counts as good into your brains.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to show the biases built into cartographers are not universal, because most of us really like these distorted monstrosities.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t meant to be a diss: your field likely has very good reasons to drill certain ideas of what counts as good into your brains.</p>
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